Round #3

Steve (he finally identified himself) got back to me much faster than I would’ve expected:

I will have to get back to answering some of these other questions in another response. If you are interested, I can try to get back to answering them soon, so just let me know with a reply.

As for one of the latter comments pertaining to many other religions, the fact is that there is only One God (Who created all things), and He has provided the way in which mankind can be restored into communion with Him. This is why He sent His Son into the world. Surely you are familiar, to some degree, with the testimony God says about His Son, and Him dying on the cross. Did you also know that He was resurrected from the dead? This miraculous event shows the credentials of Jesus Christ and sets the faith apart from other false religions. I will give a few Scrpture references to help explain what I am describing. I gave a broader scope of Scripture verses to help in to include more of the context. This is from the Book of the Acts, testifying about various events of the apostle Paul’s missionary journey. This particular section of Scriptures takes place after Paul left Berea, and went to Athens. Take note of verse 31.

Act 17:16 Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. Act 17:17 Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.
Act 17:18 Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoics, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.
Act 17:19 And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is? Act 17:20 For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean.
Act 17:21 (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)
Act 17:22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars’ hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. Act 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Act 17:25 Neither is worshiped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.
Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Act 17:32 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter. Act 17:33 So Paul departed from among them.
Act 17:34 Howbeit certain men cleaved unto him, and believed: among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.

Please reply if you would like me to respond to the other questions.

Did you happen to see the other John Piper video that I sent? There is a great explaination about Jesus Christ and His relationship to filthy sinners such as us. If you did not watch it, I encourage you to view it.

In Christ,
Steve><>

My reply:

Hey Steve,

Here’s my reply! šŸ™‚

>As for one of the latter comments pertaining to many other religions, the fact is that there is only One God (Who created all things), and He has provided the way in which mankind can be restored into communion with Him.

Right off the bat you give me an unsubstantiated assumption. “The fact is there is only One God.” That’s a fact? How do you know? How can it be proved that there is any god, let alone only one?

One of my good friends from college is a Hindu and is just as sure as you are that there are many. How come he’s wrong and you’re right? How do you know “[he] created all things”?

With the “restored in communion”, you’re getting into territory of which I know nothing. I assume you mean we were once in communion with Him, but I don’t even know what it means to be in communion with Him.

>This is why He sent His Son into the world. Surely you are familiar, to some degree, with the testimony God says about His Son, and Him dying on the cross.

Yes, I have familiarity, but I’ve never understood why people like you believe this or why people like me should. Nor do I understand the whole dying-on-the-cross thing.

>Did you also know that He was resurrected from the dead?

I know of the story, but I see no reason to believe that a man–any man–was resurrected from the dead. According to modern medical science, it is impossible to be resurrected from the dead. Without any evidence, I see no reason to believe the story.

>This miraculous event shows the credentials of Jesus Christ and sets the faith apart from other false religions.

But there’s no evidence for said event so it in fact does not separate itself from any other savior-god myth. Heracles ascended unto Mt. Olympus after throwing himself upon a funeral pyre. How is that story any less true than yours?

>I will give a few Scrpture references to help explain what I am describing.

Steve, I’m sorry, but if scripture were enough, i would’ve converted already. Scripture is not evidence. It’s not even reliable testimony. There’s no possible, objective way of verifying it.

>Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Someone was raised from the dead. Again, citing a verse proves nothing.

>Did you happen to see the other John Piper video that I sent? There is a great explaination about Jesus Christ and His relationship to filthy sinners such as us. If you did not watch it, I encourage you to view it.

I watched the video. As near as I could tell, Piper was saying that God views all sins as equal and forgives them all provided that we believe in him and Jesus. But that’s ridiculously unethical. There clearly is a difference between petty crimes like theft and heinous crimes like child molestation. If God can’t see that, He, too, is unethical. Did I miss something in the video?

And the video he alluded to:

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