Thank you, Luke “Common Sense Atheism” Muelhauser, for the awesome ‘toon!

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I asked a Christian recently why he felt his faith was more valid, more true than any other. He replied, “It’s not that those others aren’t true. They’re following a god, but it’s the wrong one. It’s Satan.”

There you have it!

If you’re a Jew, a Hindu, a Muslim, or anybody else (except I guess Buddhists, since they have a non-theistic religion), then you’re REALLY a Satan worshiper! The obvious question would be how does this Christian truly know that the followers of other faiths worship Satan, and more to the point, how can he prove it? At the same time, I would ask the same question of other faiths.

Let’s get to the cartoon…!

In panel 1, the missionary explorers mock the natives for worshiping their totem pole. This is certainly commonplace. I’ve heard any number of religious make the bold, arrogant claim that they know their faith is the one, true faith. In fact, when in Mexico many years ago, I asked why the Catholics with whom I was conversing thought it was okay for the Conquistadors to conquer Mexico. In Spanish, they replied, “To show them the one, true faith.” Genocide and mass torture is okay as long as you bring a message of your made-up bullshit being truer than someone else’s. I get it.

In panel 2, the natives mock the missionary explorers for worshiping a model of Jesus on the cross. This isn’t nearly as commonplace, in my opinion because most of the world as conquered by Christians and Muslims, not by the native religions of whatever land you care to point out.

But the point remains, as the ‘toon demonstrates, what, if any, difference is there truly between the faith of the first panel and that of the second?

Here’s where people get stuck on semantics. You’ll hear, well, the god of the first panel is just an idol. It’s a representation of some nature god or the like. It’s not a specific, personal, anthropomorphic god. The god in the second panel is a (supposedly) direct representation of the event of Christ’s crucifixion. It’s assumed to be a direct, not abstract, representation of a (supposedly) historical event, not a notion or idea.

Granted, but even considering all the semantic differences (of which my above examples are only part), it all begs the question how the missionary explorers of the first panel differ in the amount of objectively verifiable evidence they have for their faith from that which the natives have for theirs. The answer?

Not a whit.

Or as Stephen Roberts so famously, succinctly, and wonderfully put it:

“When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

4 Responses to “Thank you, Luke “Common Sense Atheism” Muelhauser, for the awesome ‘toon!”

  1. Very nice. It all goes back to the, “Everyone’s an Atheist” argument. Great quote to close with.

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  2. The teachings of Christ and the actions of men are very different. It wouldn’t make sense to dismiss Christianity just because some people that call themselves Christians don’t always act like Christians, even if they act the opposite. If sin exists, what would stop people from using the truth to their own selfish ends? Dismissing people is different then dismissing what they believe in. I wouldn’t dismiss you just because you’re an atheist.

    Also if you think that Christians believe that salvation has to do with race. I’m partly Jewish and It couldn’t be further from the truth.

    • Anton A. Hill Says:

      Hi Andrew,

      “The teachings of Christ and the actions of men are very different.”

      What’s your point? That I shouldn’t judge the “teachings of Christ” by those who claim to follow Him? Okay.

      “It wouldn’t make sense to dismiss Christianity just because some people that call themselves Christians don’t always act like Christians, even if they act the opposite.”

      I agree. I dismiss Christianity because it’s bullshit. That and every single person who has self-identified as Christian, from the Pope right on down to some (former) born-again friends, has demonstrated the falsehood of Christianity specifically and theism in general.

      “If sin exists…”

      It doesn’t.

      “…what would stop people from using the truth to their own selfish ends?”

      Nothing, but then you’d have to prove that what they claim is “truth” actually is.

      “Dismissing people is different then dismissing what they believe in.”

      I agree. I dismiss religious people who are stupid and I dismiss religious beliefs for the same reason.

      “I wouldn’t dismiss you just because you’re an atheist.”

      I’m making no false positive claims.

      “Also if you think that Christians believe that salvation has to do with race. I’m partly Jewish and It couldn’t be further from the truth.”

      I don’t think I’ve ever said anything of the kind. If you believe I have, please feel free to point it out.

      Best,

      Anton.

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